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I think they took that off the 2002 line up of Power Mac's. They should however be able to detect which voltage system your on. I asked Apple and other retailer's about this because I wanted to buy on from US myself. There seemed to be some difference in what the Power Mac's can and cannot, but...

First of all, thanks Ed...I've read quite a lot of "new Power Mac" threads today and most of the post's are really negative about how the new Power Mac's just doesn't cut it. For me...well I couldn't be happier, I'm in the market looking for a new mac and now I can get a dual 867 for the price...

isen't that because they use 133 MHz x 4 on their bus?

Well I think I'm getting the dual gig, although I think the dual 867 is like getting an "old" dual gig for half the price. I just think that the dual gig have a longer life-span. What do you think?

so the new dual 867 has the exact same setup as the xserve? ...so howcome they put in a ram type that supports 266 but their bus only supports 133? Is their going to be a feature to bump up the bus to 266 like on a pc (is that what they are doing on pc's?)

Allright, this is what I've been wanting to know, and I STILL cant figure it out, can someone confirm, with evidence ? Is the DDR on this machine a Hack a La Xserve, or is it "FULL" DDR ?

Hhmmm...I thought so. So is it worth it to put down the extra $ to go for the next in the line. How much faster would it be?

Actually I think I'm buying one, but that's just because I don't have a mac anymore and I was looking forward to this new release. Now is the lowend one faster than the "old" dual gig? I mean does the ram mean that much?

Hhmm...good point, I didn't catch that one.;)

does the amount of ram have anything to say in this test?

what I really wanted to know is whether an increased bus and ram speed will make that much of a difference performancewise if the GHz stay the same but one of them has a dual processor.

iBook 500, 128 MB RAM. Typical Instructions: 433,2 MIPS Fast Integer Instructions: 924,5 MIPS ...with chimera and launchbar running.

I was wondering which of the two is faster. The new PM setup (entry model) or the "old" dual gig. Now I know that we don't know the specs for the new PM but we can speculate. I was wondering if ram and faster bus makes that much of a difference in performance, that the entry model, say it would...

I just found this great little notes app. called notational velocity. No I'm not related to the guy who made it, I just thought I would share with my fellow macfans. It's really a nice little app. for anyone who just wants to make small random notes, and it's real easy to use. Here's a...

are you implying that Jet doesn't have a life? :p

ahhh...thanx man, now I get it.

I'm sorry I was not being specific enough. I want to put a picture directly into messages here at this forum. I'm pretty sure it can be done since I've seen it, for example in the "post your X.2 desktop pictures" thread.

Have a good one....and happy birthday to you too Ed.

OMG...OMG!!!....that's amazing I want one right now. Ksv where can I get one? See how fun this is...btw wasen't it you who made that PDA? ;) Ahh...ksv you're a scandinavian (not sure?), you know what a good joke is supposed to be. :D I just hope everybody has had as much fun as I have...

which add r u talking about?