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chornbe, thanks for the quote, it seems to have helped, So far everything has gone smoothly with the X11, Fink and the Fink Commander, just a bit worried about some nasty moment of truth when I try to download these packages......... ziess, about the Maya, think I remember vaguely hearing...

Anyway, as I seem to be on my own, have decided to install X11 before Fink........Have been told by the Apple Help in Panther that X11 will be on disc 2......which it is not,.... but rather it is on disc 3.....so 2 means 3......is this the first Unix Lesson?

OH Dear, I'm being detected..........a Minnesota Man am fada (long time) in Wicklow.......born on 13th nov also..... Anyway, to get on with my silly problem, I've decided to go the Fink way but am unsure weather to put this X11 or Fink on first..........

Thank you both very much for you replies. The programs I was hoping to run are listed on the Fink "Archive Section Graphics" pages, under " Packages" (http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/section.php/graphics). I have nothing in particular in mind but thought many looked worth investigating...

Perhaps someone with a bit of time to spare could point me in the right direction, and not over a cliff.......(seem to be going that way)........ Have been hoping to try and run some of these Unix graphics programs out there........See the thing as perhaps 3 basic solutions, please correct me...