Originally posted by cokeymon
Nice "PC" comment there...
So, you people who want Ed to continue as is, why not just go straight to Apple's website and read the marketing info. Or maybe go wild and read some Dell marketing info.
Because eventually, if Ed keeps up, we'll all just be able to post nice sterile little corporate soundbites and facts, not opinions.
you a certainly entitled to post opinions. and they certainly don't have to agrree with mine. but let's keep those opinions centered around the issues and not about other site members. of course i have opinions about other members here but i try to foolow what my mom taught me - "if you can't say something good about somebody, then don't say anything at all."
I thought using Apples meant having a brain and using it, not just being sheep and following the PC crowd. So if we're independent thinkers, we must also be able to freely express our opinions.
i couldn't have said this part much better myself.
And sometimes opinions cannot be backed up by facts. At that stage, are we to just say, "OK, we'll agree to disagree, let's not post any more on this subject"? Surely that would make for a dull debate, and worse for Ed/MacOSX, a dull board.
at a certain point most opinion based discussions have to end that way. continuing them by resorting to insults doens't exactly add credibility to either side.
And Ed, at what stage does something become an insult, capable of causing "emotional distress"? I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my life!
i think you're assuming everyone has the same emotional makeup as you. you're asuming everyone here is emotionally healthy and able to deal with these kinds of things in the same "who cares" attitude that you do. this may come as news to you, but some of our members like this board specifically because we create a safe environment for them to express their views without having their character and intelligence questioned.
Do you really think that users of this board might somehow be mentally scarred from an adverse post? Is my calling PC users "sheep" an insult or an observation? Tell me a better (more politically correct) way to put it. You're on a slippery slope to giving yourself a lot more work, alienating users and abusing your status.
well, i agree with part of this. it certainly is a lot more work for me to make sure that site rules are adhered to. it would be much easier to just sit back and let this stuff go. but then i wouldn't be meeting the responsibilities i accepted when i became a mod. calling pc users sheep is fine. calling neyo or buddahbobb or any other site member a sheep because they like pc's as well as macs is not ok. see the difference? as for mental scarring, let me just say that people in real life, not just here, tend to say things that they don't realize how it affects others. learning that your words and actions can have meanings you didn't think out is part of the maturing process.
The BBC, which most regard as the epitome of broadcasting quality, has a remit to "Inform, Educate & Entertain". This forum used to do the same. It's rapidly losing its entertainment value, and if this censorship goes on, it will also lose its education value. All it will be is somewhere to read requoted marketing material.
this isn't the BBC. as i have replied in another post, if flame wars and insults are your idea of entertainment, find other forms. i suggest usenet. some flame wars there last for years.
For goodness sake, Ed, don't help Microsoft win! I only bought an iMac after visiting here - I was a PC user till 6 months ago. I got sick of Bill's control freakery (activation, spyware, Palladium etc) and thought switching to Apple and debating with its users would be a breath of fresh air. PC users know Mac users get hot under the collar, and are notorious flamers, and this is one of the reasons to switch i.e. to find out what all the fuss is about.
i will try to stay away from pointing out the potential hypocrisy in your wanting to criticize pc users when that was you just a short time ago.
but i think you will find that i am one of the biggest microsh*t bashers on the site. i couldn't agree any more with your perception of billy and his goats. but i'm pretty unawares of mac users having a reputation as being hot under the collar. in fact i would say that the huge majority of site members here are good examples of people who are content with their own happiness using a mac and could care less about people who choose pc's. we might be a bit fanatical or zealous, but we can do so without being jerks. maybe we'll just have to dispel that myth for you.
So let this board show people Apple users in their element, confidently telling others why they're wrong!
aside from the fact that this kind of right and wrong is more often a matter of opinion, than facts, i still prefer that you show someone is wrong rather than just telling them.
if you are looking for a place to shout about your new found joy of using a mac this is it. just don't shout at people who have disagreements with you.
