Originally posted by Soapvox
Get off your high horse and be real, this is a forum to help people, and with a new os you have to use beta software and so we need to lend a hand when we can, so step off your throne and if you can help do so or just keep your comments to yourself. We are on the verge of the next level of operating system and we need to test new beta software so we can shape the way our OS is going, and yes that does lend itself to newbies having problems but that is where we step in. I do develop software and people do do crazy things, but it is our job to help them, and maybe find ways to make our software better, inspite of the betas and such. Sorry if this sounds like a flame, I just don't want people to be discouraged from being beta testers just because they are newbies ( I personally think we need more newbie beta testers, they give us quite a bit of insight about UI)
First off, don't you dare try to tell me how to do my job. I have a boss for that, which is obviously much more qualified to do that. You should also pay attention to what the thread is about before you chime in. He's using private, and illegal beta's not public beta's. If they were public then they would be much safer and have warnings and documentation. Private beta's don't have the oppertunity to warn the public of the dangers in the specific rev's, because they were never designed to be made public. Out private beta's can be very hazardous to a system during development, and generally that can be said for most private beta's, especially if the rev is designed with a defferent rev of the OS.
It's at my discretion to help customers in public forums, and I asked if he was a customer, and he's obviously not. I even overlooked that, which I don't have to, so he should feel lucky that I don't enforce any sort of software security here. If I did, I would be busy all day and this place would not be around for long, and I like this place. I also don't think it's wise to tell a software developer how to deligate his business. We are a very large company, and we have a staff of over 100 professional testers that are subjected to very strick NDA's, for good reasons. We don't need Joe Public stealing, and messing with something that not going be stable, and asking the public why. We do encourage beta testing, but only when it's done through the right channels, or offered to the public. It doesn't benefit anyone to have someone using it who is not going to give US feedback, especially when the average user is not qualified to beta test our software, let alone a newby. They will just end up screwing up their machines, and we don't need to be the caus of such things. That's why we don't offer it to the public. If someone want's to be a beta tester, and has the skills to do it well, then they can apply to be one through the right channels of the company, but don't for a second expect me to be curtious, or support someone that steals our, and many others developers software, and is now complaining that they're having problems. You might not see it as helping, but I believe I helped this guy in the only logical way someone could help him, and that was to advise him to stop using illegal, private beta, and hacked apps, which WILL solve his problem in the future. For those of you that continue to do so , just remember, when you don't have the documentation that comes with the specific private beta's to warn you of specific danger areas, which there always is, you are putting your system at serious risk of complete or partial data loss, not to mention the small bug's. It hapens all the time, especiall when the OS is not matured enough to protect against these things, and we havn't had enough time to keep up with the OS because it's still developing. You can't, in your right mind expect to not have problems under these conditions.