Why the AOL and Netscape hating?

oh i almost forgot -
I see your side of the story and agree your point does have some merit...

IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEBODY DID !!:D

sorry for that excitement, i have just wanted somebody whosupports the aol side to say that for so long now.:p

i may finally get a good night's sleep.:D
 
Originally posted by CloudNine
People have a variety of qualms with AOL, directly and indirectly. The 'fake internet' paradigm is one given to AOL because it is sometimes seen as a large corporation's version of the world wide web, open to censorship, solicitation, with a candy-coating that, uhh, melts in your mouth but not in your hand?

Actually ....

that's not entirely accurate. the general use of the term 'fake internet' or 'internet lite' with regard to AOL is NOT just the commercial (read: corporate) bullcrap that goes with it. [While I agree that AOL is Microsoft version 2 (and, believe me, AOL Time Warner has its own antitrust issues) "true" internet companies like Earthlink (which is the #2 ISP) still have the favor of corporate commercialism -- because they HAVE to! They're in the business to make money and there's nothing inherently wrong with that; the problem is in how FAR you take that corporate profit over customer satisfaction attitude that matters.]

No, the real reason (or at least the ORIGIN) for such comments comes from real, technical data:

AOL uses proxy servers which route all IP traffic through it's routers to the AOL client -- so AOL can, I suppose, monitor IP traffic, gain useful statistical information (read: commercial gain), block undesirable sites (kiddy porn and illegal sites), etc. While some of this is good some of it is bad. Statistically, while this may have changed recently, it is still my understanding that because of the use of proxy servers (a similar reason as to why Apple Airport Base Station 1.0 did NOT work with AOL), access to AOL proxied web-pages is SLOWER than direct access from a true browser directly to the Internet. AOL acts as a gateway to the internet rather than as part of the internet itself. It is it's own universe with its own services, features, and culture -- and it imposes the culture on the user whether they want it or not. For example instant messaging and chatting with AOL, while good features, must be done THEIR way -- but if you use a third party service (IRC, etc.) you have MANY(!) more features.

Anyway, original AOL was like Earthlink, they were Macintosh SUPPORTERS. Now AOL is not!
 
Originally posted by Ed Spruiell
oh i almost forgot -


IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEBODY DID !!:D

sorry for that excitement, i have just wanted somebody who supports the aol side to say that for so long now.:p

i may finally get a good night's sleep.:D

LOL...that doesn't mean that I agree with your entire argument Ed...only some of it's selected merits...the reader's digest version if you will :p ;)

In a perfect world we'd be using an OSX beefed up version of the AppleWeb browser through AppleNet ISP service ;)
 
Izzy, while i would love it if you were swayed by my arguments and those of others in this thread, the important part was that you were able to see where i am coming from. agree or not agree - that is your right. the world i want is probably different than the one you envision. i just know i won't ever see mine if i sit by and cooperate with an opposing agenda.

and maybe at some point you will change your opinion. who knows;)
 
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